drive us into those jobs, chris. i mean what's really interesting is when we did this original piece in 2008. when you look at the politicians, when you talk to male politicians, they got into the business because it was going to get the girls. you know, when you talk to movie stars, a lot of them were fat and ugly in high school and that was the way to get the girls. now, the military, you would think would be different, but maybe it's not. i mean men are in these positions sometimes to get the girls and women, when you talk to women politicians they're usually in there to change the world. it's slightly different. >> that's depressing if it's true. >> it's very depressing. >> we can't leave out when you look at general petraeus, you can't leave out also the fundamental difference that we are attracted to them. something about a man in uniform, and now that we're focusing on -- >> richard gere "an officer and a?" >> yes, yes, part of the mystery. >> do we really still want men to pick up us in the factory and carry